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Saelfaer · Sep 26, 2006, 09:53 AM // 09:53

funny how everyone advises not to download 3rd party prgrams
and this thread has numerous posts with links in to programs to either scan viruses or scan for fake programs or whatever...

lots of people who dont know macafee site advisor dont know if its good or bad... and if it has or not has trojans in it...

MelechRic · Sep 26, 2006, 03:54 PM // 15:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saelfaer

funny how everyone advises not to download 3rd party prgrams
and this thread has numerous posts with links in to programs to either scan viruses or scan for fake programs or whatever...

lots of people who dont know macafee site advisor dont know if its good or bad... and if it has or not has trojans in it...

Well at some point there has to be a root link in the trust chain. I'd say that some companies have proven themselves reliable and spyware/virus free. As for claims of one site being better than another... use your brain and investigate for yourself. Just googling the site or their product is usually enough to find out some interesting information.

Taurohtar · Sep 27, 2006, 04:28 PM // 16:28

Keylogging

I've been active on the forums recently and a few posts are created in a bid to get back lost items, characters or titles lost to hackers. Keylogging is the most common cause of password loss. Keylogging takes place when a virus or trojan (also known as worms) are installed or opened on somebody's computer. These viruses and trojans are often located in tempting emails or hidden in programs downloadable from everyday websites. To view Wikipedia's excellent page on keylogging (or Keystoke Logging) click below:

Wikipedia: Keystroke Logging

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wikipedia

Writing software applications for keylogging is trivial, and like any computer program can be distributed as a trojan horse or as part of a virus or worm. What is not trivial however, is installing a keystroke logger without getting caught and downloading data that has been logged without being traced. An attacker that manually connects to a host machine to download logged keystrokes risks being traced. A trojan that sends keylogged data to a fixed e-mail address or IP address risks exposing the attacker.

Prevention

To protect my Guildwars password from keylogging I use the following method. This method logs into Guildwars without the use of the keyboard to enter your password.

Step #1

Right click on your Guildwars Icon on your desktop
Click on Properties

Step #2

Click on the Shortcut tab at the top of the window
Go to the end of the text in the "Target" text box
Copy and paste the text in the following code window into the text box after what is already in there
Code:
```
 -password=crystalline
```
- I've used crystalline as an example, enter your password here exactly as it is
Press OK and try out Guildwars

If Guildwars skips the login screen and goes straight to the character selection screen, then it has worked. As far as I'm concerned this is the best method of avoiding keyloggers obtaining your Guildwars password available. I am extremely paranoid about security and for me, this works fine. I also have 1 firewall running and 2 antivirus programs activated at all time. So up to now nobody has obtained my password.

Remember, it's better to be safe than sorry.
-Taurohtar

R_A_M_Z_A · Sep 27, 2006, 04:35 PM // 16:35

This does seem like a nice measure to get around keyloggers- given you have one...

But for those of us who share a computer, this isnt such a good idea ^.^

My wife and I both have separate accounts...

I'm sure she'd get tired of having to log out of my account constantly to get to hers...

Still for those lone users- seems like a good one...
Easy way to never forget your password as well...

Divinus Stella · Sep 27, 2006, 04:50 PM // 16:50

you could make 2 different shortcuts for each account, one for you one for your wife, just add [email protected] along with the password as shown by the OP.

Teddy Bear · Sep 27, 2006, 05:12 PM // 17:12

running 2 AV's at the same time is not a good idea as it causes problems even if is doenst seem like there is, even if u are running it at diff times a lil overkill if u ask me imo

Amity and Truth · Sep 27, 2006, 05:36 PM // 17:36

Well, you've now dodged the keyloggers but opened up all doors for Mister Trojan.

Shanaeri Rynale · Sep 27, 2006, 05:39 PM // 17:39

I've used this website to help test my passwords
http://www.securitystats.com/tools/password.php

Please remember not to use your actual one, but a variation on it.

Sekkira · Sep 27, 2006, 05:39 PM // 17:39

Yeah, that method seems very insecure to me. More so than a keylogger.

Loviatar · Sep 27, 2006, 05:41 PM // 17:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Divinus Stella

you could make 2 different shortcuts for each account, one for you one for your wife, just add [email protected] along with the password as shown by the OP.

unless they made a recent change the -email was gone over a year ago

meowmeow89 · Sep 27, 2006, 05:45 PM // 17:45

I use -image, and that's about it, don't trust "things" coming into my computer or people in the house playing around and happen to mess with my account.

Taurohtar · Sep 27, 2006, 06:32 PM // 18:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amity and Truth

Well, you've now dodged the keyloggers but opened up all doors for Mister Trojan.

I've only assumed this works. Can you explain to me what you mean by opening doors to Mister Trojan?

Tyggen · Sep 27, 2006, 06:39 PM // 18:39

You do of course realise this is pointless if you already have a keylogger on your computer?

Quote:

Originally Posted by R_A_M_Z_A

But for those of us who share a computer, this isnt such a good idea ^.^

And as a note to that if you decide to use this; Don't let anyone you don't fully trust use your computer without your supervision. The password is freely available to all users with access to the shortcut.

some guy · Sep 28, 2006, 06:32 AM // 06:32

Number 1 tip:

Use the knowledge of common sense before doing any thing.

SAC · Oct 01, 2006, 10:07 AM // 10:07

Thank you for the all advice, i think they would be useful for the account security. more or less i think.

bebe · Oct 17, 2006, 03:24 PM // 15:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Here are some tips I'd like to share with you:

Use a unique account name.
Come up with a complex and unique password.
Do not reveal your Guild Wars account name to anyone.
Do not reveal your birthdate.
Take the usual privacy provisions.
If you are given the opportunity to come up with a security question, make it matter!

I wish to change my account emails to something that I don't use for anything else, however if you have logged in with plaync (you need to in order to buy any more character slots) you cannot change your email via the website.

[edit]
I should read the thread before I comment. Maybe. :P

Tijger · Oct 17, 2006, 05:34 PM // 17:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by some guy

Number 1 tip:

Use the knowledge of common sense before doing any thing.

Indeed, the only thing no program can solve is user stupidity and ofcourse that other wonderful trait, greed.

No, that popup promising you free sex will do nothing of the sort and no, that popup that promised you ubergodly items for GW also will not anything of the sort.

If something sounds too good to be true its pretty much guaranteed not to be true, so stop clicking on every thing in sight because it promises you x, y or z, okay?

Firewalls, AV & anti-spy/malware are not match for human greed, negligence or lack of common sense, all they can do is hopefully mitigate some of the damage.

Riesz · Oct 17, 2006, 07:00 PM // 19:00

There's still no way to change my GW account's email and login address. When will this be added?

Stemnin · Oct 17, 2006, 07:15 PM // 19:15

For me, accounts are as safe as eating fast food.. clogging arteries, maybe i'll die before someone hacks me hopefully

joshysan · May 05, 2008, 12:57 PM // 12:57

Hi guys,

Sorry for re-opening an old thread but this issue has cropped up again. Just last week both my younger brother and one of his friends had their Guild Wars account stolen. The strange thing is however that neither of them have been part of a phishing scam so how the thiefs have managed to get a hold of their account details is beyond me.

So this is a reminder to you all, if you notice anything strange happening on your account, for example if a favourite weapon goes missing, or just a few gold, please report it to PlayNC straight away.

Sados.